Hosted by John Lobell, we talk with visionaries – people in the arts, technology, science, culture, and spirituality

M.J.Dorian is once again our guest. We discuss his recent podcast, "14. Why Humans Need Art." Find M.J.'s podcast, Creative Codex, on your favorite podcast source. M.J.Dorian is an award winning composer who writes music for film and television. Catch our previous interviews on past shows, and find out more at:
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